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Used Fadal VMC-4020: One Model Name, Two Fadals | Meet the Machine

By Bill Murphy

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Used Fadal VMC-4020: One Model Name, Two Fadals

What is the Fadal VMC-4020?

The Fadal VMC-4020 is a 40-taper CNC Vertical Machining Center with 40 x 20 x 20 in of travel on a table of about 48 x 20 in. Fadal built it in Chatsworth, California, until the plant closed in 2008, and most used 4020s are box-way machines with a 21-tool carousel and the Fadal CNC 88 control. In 2014 a new Fadal Engineering, based in Troy, Michigan, relaunched the brand with a Classic Series VMC4020. So a used 4020 can come from either company, and the year tells you which one built it.

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A Fadal VMC-4020 from 1989 and one from 2019 share a model name and a 40 x 20 x 20 inch envelope. They do not share a factory, a control or, in some cases, a tool changer. Here is how to tell which 4020 you are looking at.

Our Fadal Brand Profile covers the company and its CNC 88 control, and our VMC 6030 Meet the Machine covers the big-travel member of the family. This one is about the Fadal VMC-4020 itself, the model most Fadal buyers are shopping for.

The 4020 in Numbers

The model name is the envelope: 40 inches of X travel and 20 inches of Y. Dealer listings for legacy machines are consistent on the core.

Specification Typical legacy VMC-4020
Travels (X x Y x Z) 40 x 20 x 20 in
Table About 48 x 20 in
Spindle taper CAT 40
Spindle speed 7,500 or 10,000 rpm, depending on year and spindle
Tool changer 21-tool carousel on most machines
Ways Box ways
Control Fadal CNC 88 or 88HS on most machines

Those are the numbers that stayed put. The spindle, the horsepower and the control changed under the same name, which is why the year matters more than the model.

Two Companies, One Model

Here's the part most buyers miss: there are two Fadals, and both built a VMC-4020.

The first was the original company in Chatsworth, California, run by the de Caussin family. According to trade press coverage, the founders sold Fadal to Giddings & Lewis in 1995, and the name passed through several mergers after that. The Chatsworth plant closed in 2008.

The second came six years later. In 2014 Fadal Engineering and Merrill Technologies Group, both of Troy, Michigan, relaunched the brand. Their Classic Series VMCs, including a VMC4020, were modeled on the legacy box-way machines, and the companies said they would build in Michigan and California.

Original Fadal Relaunched Fadal
Years Through 2008 2014 on
Base Chatsworth, California Troy, Michigan
Typical control Fadal CNC 88 or 88HS Newer controls, such as the Fadal 64MP on our 2019 machine
What to expect Huge installed base, deep rebuild and repair network Newer machine, check parts and service through the current company

A 4020 with a 2008 or earlier date is an original Chatsworth machine. A 4020 dated after 2014 came from the new company. The gap in between is a useful check on any listing year.

Reading the Letters

Fadal added letters to the model number, and used listings are full of them: HT, VHT, FX, MP, B-II and more. Dealers commonly read HT as high torque, and many 4020HT listings show a 10,000 rpm spindle at 22.5 hp. We could not find a published Fadal decoder for every suffix, so do not buy on the letters alone.

Instead, read the plate and the records. Confirm the spindle speed and horsepower, the tool changer type and capacity, and the control model on the machine itself. On our own floor, the 4020s range from a 21-tool carousel to a 24-tool dual-arm changer, under the same model number.

Why Shops Still Buy Them

The legacy 4020 is a simple machine. Box ways, a carousel changer and a control built by the same company make it easy to understand and easy to fix, and decades of installed machines keep rebuilders, parts suppliers and control repair shops in business. That support network is the real reason an old 4020 still sells.

An older 4020 is not a high-speed production machine. Its rapids are slower than a modern linear-guide VMC and the older carousels are slow by today's standards. For a job shop that wants 40 inches of X travel, a rigid table and a machine any good maintenance tech can work on, that trade is often worth it.

On Our Floor

We have seven Fadal VMC-4020s, from 1989 to 2019, covering both companies:

2019 Fadal VMC-4020B-II CNC Vertical Machining Center with 2-Pallet Changer, a relaunched-company machine on the Fadal 64MP control with a 24-tool dual-arm changer.
2008 Fadal VMC-4020-FXMP-HT CNC Vertical Machining Center, built the year the Chatsworth plant closed.
2005 Fadal VMC-4020HT CNC Vertical Machining Center.
2004 Fadal VMC-4020VHT CNC Vertical Machining Center.
1994 Fadal VMC4020 CNC Vertical Machining Center.
1989 Fadal VMC-4020 CNC Vertical Machining Center (two available).

Confirm specs, control and availability with our team before you buy.

What to Check on a Used VMC-4020

Check the ways and gibs. On a box-way machine, look for scoring and uneven wear, check gib adjustment and confirm the way lube system is delivering oil to every axis.

Run the spindle. Take it through its full speed range, listen to the bearings and check runout and temperature. Ask whether the spindle has been rebuilt and by whom.

Cycle the tool changer. Run every pocket on the carousel or arm and watch for hesitation, missed pockets or alarms.

Confirm the control. Find out whether it is an original CNC 88, an 88HS, a newer Fadal control or a retrofit, and whether boards and service are available for it.

Check backlash. Indicate each axis in both directions, especially on X, where 40 inches of travel shows wear.

Same Name, Different Machine

The VMC-4020 name has stayed on 40 x 20 x 20 inches of travel for decades, across two companies. Buy the year, the control and the condition, not just the model number.

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An older Chatsworth 4020 is a good buy for a shop that values simple and fixable over fast. A post-2014 4020 is a newer machine with a different support story. Either way, read the plate and the control first, and the letters after the model number last.

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Frequently Asked Questions

What is a Fadal VMC-4020?

A 40-taper CNC Vertical Machining Center with 40 x 20 x 20 in of travel on a table of about 48 x 20 in. Most used 4020s are box-way machines with a CAT 40 spindle, a 21-tool carousel and the Fadal CNC 88 control, built in Chatsworth, California.

Is Fadal still in business?

Yes, under new ownership. The original company closed its Chatsworth, California, plant in 2008. In 2014 Fadal Engineering and Merrill Technologies Group of Troy, Michigan, relaunched the brand with a Classic Series of VMCs that included the VMC4020.

Who owned Fadal?

The de Caussin family ran Fadal in Chatsworth, California. According to trade press coverage of the 2014 relaunch, the founders sold the company to Giddings & Lewis in 1995, and the name then passed through several mergers before the Chatsworth plant closed in 2008.

What does HT mean on a Fadal 4020?

Dealers commonly read HT as high torque, and many VMC-4020HT listings show a 10,000 rpm spindle at 22.5 hp. Fadal suffixes vary by year, so confirm the spindle and drive on the machine's plate and in its records rather than relying on the letters.

What control does a Fadal VMC-4020 use?

Most legacy 4020s use the Fadal CNC 88 or 88HS control. Some machines have been retrofitted with other controls, and newer machines from the relaunched company use controls such as the Fadal 64MP. Check the control on the machine before you buy.

What should you check on a used Fadal VMC-4020?

Check the box ways and gibs for wear, run the spindle through its range and listen to the bearings, cycle the tool changer through every pocket, and confirm the control generation. On an older machine, ask about spindle rebuilds and control board repairs.

About the Author

About Resell CNC

Resell CNC has bought and sold used CNC machinery since 2008. Based in Maitland, Florida, with warehouses in Winter Springs and Longwood, the team brings more than 200 years of combined industry experience and four AMEA and CEA certified equipment appraisers on staff. Resell CNC has been an MDNA member since 2009 and is the only used CNC dealer in North America with Official Mazak Trade-In Center status.

Sources

  1. Today's Medical Developments, Fadal Engineering back under new ownership, 2014, todaysmedicaldevelopments.com.
  2. Fabricating and Metalworking, Fadal relaunches under new ownership, July 29, 2014.
  3. Modern Machine Shop, Derek Korn, Remember Fadal? It's Back, July 23, 2014.
  4. Modern Machine Shop, Tom Beard, Fadal, Part Two, March 1, 1996.
  5. Surplus Record, dealer listings for Fadal VMC-4020 and VMC-4020HT machines, 1997 to 2019, surplusrecord.com.
  6. Resell CNC inventory listings for Fadal VMC-4020 machines, resellcnc.com.
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