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Used Okuma MB-5000H: The Original, Before the HII | Meet the Machine

By Bill Murphy

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Used Okuma MB-5000H: The Original, Before the HII

What is the Okuma MB-5000H?

The Okuma MB-5000H is a 40-taper CNC Horizontal Machining Center built on a 500 x 500 mm (19.69 in) pallet, with 760 mm (29.92 in) of X and Y travel and 2,362 ipm rapids. Okuma introduced it with the larger MB-8000H at IMTS 2010 as the MB-H series, built around its Thermo-Friendly Concept for thermal compensation and a modular tool and pallet changer. In 2018 Okuma replaced it with the redesigned MB-5000HII. Original MB-5000H machines from 2010 and 2011 typically run the Okuma OSP-P200M control with a 2-pallet changer.

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Okuma has built the MB-5000H for more than fifteen years, under two names. The machines from the first few years are the originals: the same 500 mm pallet as today's MB-5000HII, but a different control, a different pallet changer and a different footprint. Here is what you get with an original, and what to check before you buy one.

Okuma is the builder that makes its own machine and its own control. Our Okuma brand profile covers that story. This one is about a single machine.

New at IMTS 2010

Okuma brought a new series of horizontal machining centers to IMTS 2010 in Chicago: the Okuma MB-5000H and the larger Okuma MB-8000H. Aerospace Manufacturing and Design's preview of the show quoted Okuma describing the MB-H series as a combination of high speed and power in a small footprint, built on its Thermo-Friendly Concept, with a modular tool changer and pallet changer on each machine.

That makes a 2010 MB-5000H a first-year machine. The family also includes the smaller Okuma MB-4000H.

The Numbers

Specification Okuma MB-5000H
Pallet 500 x 500 mm (19.69 x 19.69 in), 2-pallet changer
Pallet load 1,100 lb (500 kg)
X / Y travel 760 mm (29.92 in) each
Z travel 29.92 or 31.89 in, depending on the source (see below)
Rapids 60 m/min (2,362 ipm) on X, Y and Z
Taper 40 taper (CAT 40 on our machines)
B axis Full 4th axis, continuous
Control Okuma OSP-P200M on our 2010 and 2011 machines

Two numbers need care. Okuma's current MB-5000HII brochure lists 810 mm (31.89 in) of Z travel, while Techspex lists the original MB-5000H at 29.92 in and many dealer listings for 2010 and 2011 machines show the same. The spindle varies too: Techspex lists 15,000 rpm standard with a 20,000 rpm option, and our two listings show 12,000 rpm at 40 hp. Confirm both on the machine before you plan a job around them.

The Original vs. the HII

In June 2018, Okuma America announced the Okuma MB-5000HII as a redesigned model. Here is what Okuma says changed, next to what the original machines on our floor have.

MB-5000H (our 2010 and 2011 machines) MB-5000HII (Okuma, 2018 and later)
Control OSP-P200M OSP-P500M in Okuma's current brochure
Pallet changer 2-pallet changer Two-level tower APC; pallets also fit Okuma vertical machining centers
Tool magazine 110 tools on our machines 48-tool disc standard, with chain and matrix options
Footprint Original 20 percent smaller, by Okuma's count
Cycle time Original 25 percent shorter, by Okuma's count

Okuma does not spell out its baseline for the footprint and cycle time figures, so treat them as the company's claims. What does not change is the job: a 500 mm pallet, a 40-taper spindle and a 4th axis that reaches four sides of a part in one setup.

Thermo-Friendly, Explained

Here's the part most machinists never think about: the machine is growing while it cuts. The spindle heats up, the shop warms up by afternoon, and the casting moves with both.

Okuma's answer is what it calls the Thermo-Friendly Concept. According to Okuma, it starts with the structure: symmetrical castings that grow evenly, heat sources kept away from the casting and covers that keep hot chips off it. Then the control takes over. Temperature sensors on the spindle (Okuma calls it TAS-S) and the casting (TAS-C) feed the OSP control, which predicts thermal growth and compensates for it without the operator touching an offset.

Okuma says the approach is built on test data from a thermal testing room it has run since 1987. On a used machine, it only works if the sensors and the control do, so it belongs on the inspection list.

On Our Floor

We have two original MB-5000Hs, a year apart, with the same 110-tool magazine, OSP-P200M control, high-pressure coolant and chip conveyor:

2010 Okuma MB5000H CNC Horizontal Machining Center with 2-Pallet Changer.
2011 Okuma MB5000H CNC Horizontal Machining Center with 2-Pallet Changer.

If your parts are smaller or larger, we also have the rest of the family:

2019 Okuma MB-4000H CNC Horizontal Machining Center with 2-Pallet Changer.
2021 Okuma MB-8000H CNC Horizontal Machining Center with 2-Pallet Changer.
2022 Okuma MA-500HII CNC Horizontal Machining Center with 2-Pallet Changer.

Confirm the spindle, travels, options and availability with our team before you buy.

What to Check on a Used MB-5000H

Read the data plate. Listings for this model disagree on spindle speed and Z travel. The plate and the control settle it.

Run the spindle. Take it through its full range, listen to the bearings and check runout and temperature.

Cycle both pallets. Run the changer several times and confirm each pallet seats and clamps. Index the 4th axis through a full turn.

Cycle the whole magazine. A 110-tool magazine has a lot of pockets. Run every one.

Check the thermal compensation. Confirm the control reads the spindle and casting sensors without alarms.

Test the coolant and probing. Run the high-pressure through-spindle coolant at pressure, and confirm whether the machine has a spindle probe, a tool setter or both.

Back up the control. Save the programs and parameters from the OSP-P200M before the machine moves.

Who Runs One

The MB-5000H suits a production shop with parts that fit a 500 mm pallet and need several faces machined in one setup, with the 2-pallet changer keeping the spindle cutting during load and unload. A big tool magazine like the 110 on our machines lets one machine hold the tools for several jobs. Our lights-out production guide covers what it takes to run a horizontal like this unattended.

Resell CNC Take

An original MB-5000H is the same 500 mm job as an HII, on an older control and a simpler pallet changer. That is the trade. Read the data plate, not the listing, check that the thermal compensation still works, and price it against what the HII's tower APC would actually save your shop.

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Frequently Asked Questions

What is the Okuma MB-5000H?

The Okuma MB-5000H is a 40-taper CNC Horizontal Machining Center with a 500 x 500 mm pallet, 760 mm (29.92 in) of X and Y travel and 60 m/min (2,362 ipm) rapids. Okuma introduced it at IMTS 2010 alongside the larger MB-8000H, and replaced it in 2018 with the MB-5000HII.

When did the Okuma MB-5000H come out?

Okuma showed the MB-5000H and MB-8000H as a new series of horizontal machining centers at IMTS 2010 in Chicago, according to Aerospace Manufacturing and Design. Okuma America announced the redesigned MB-5000HII in June 2018.

What is the difference between the MB-5000H and MB-5000HII?

Okuma describes the MB-5000HII as a redesign with a footprint 20 percent smaller, a two-level tower pallet changer whose pallets also fit Okuma vertical machining centers, a 48-tool disc magazine standard and a servo ATC shutter. Okuma claims the changes cut cycle time by 25 percent. Its current brochure lists the OSP-P500M control, while original 2010 and 2011 machines typically have the OSP-P200M.

What is the Okuma Thermo-Friendly Concept?

It is Okuma's approach to thermal accuracy. Okuma designs its castings to grow evenly with heat, keeps heat sources away from the structure and uses temperature sensors on the spindle and casting so the OSP control can predict thermal growth and compensate for it. Okuma calls the spindle and casting systems TAS-S and TAS-C.

How big a part fits on an Okuma MB-5000H?

Okuma's current MB-5000HII brochure lists a 500 x 500 mm pallet, a maximum workpiece of 800 mm diameter by 1,000 mm tall (31.5 x 39.37 in) and a pallet load of 500 kg (1,100 lb). Our original MB-5000H listings show the same 500 mm pallet rated to 1,100 lb. Confirm the envelope for the specific machine.

What should you check on a used Okuma MB-5000H?

Confirm the spindle speed and taper on the data plate, since listings for the same model disagree. Then run the spindle through its range, cycle both pallets and check that each one seats and clamps, cycle every pocket in the tool magazine, test the probing and the high-pressure coolant, and back up the OSP control's programs and parameters.

About the Author

About Resell CNC

Resell CNC has bought and sold used CNC machinery since 2008. Based in Maitland, Florida, with warehouses in Winter Springs and Longwood, the team brings more than 200 years of combined industry experience and four AMEA and CEA certified equipment appraisers on staff. Resell CNC has been an MDNA member since 2009 and is the only used CNC dealer in North America with Official Mazak Trade-In Center status.

Sources

  1. Aerospace Manufacturing and Design, Countdown to IMTS2010: Okuma, August 2010.
  2. Okuma America Corporation, Okuma's New MB-5000HII HMC Delivers Power and High-Speed Automation in a Compact Footprint, June 1, 2018.
  3. Okuma Corporation, MB-5000HII brochure, Pub. No. MB-5000H2-E-(4b), February 2026.
  4. Okuma America, Thermo-Friendly Concept Helps CNC Machines Take the Heat, white paper, okuma.com.
  5. Techspex, Okuma MB-5000H machining center specifications, techspex.com.
  6. Surplus Record, dealer listings for 2010 and 2011 Okuma MB-5000H machines, surplusrecord.com.
  7. Resell CNC inventory listings for Okuma MB-5000H, MB-4000H, MB-8000H and MA-500HII machines, resellcnc.com.
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"I want to thank you for your time, patience and great service"

Roberto, Mexico

"I want to thank you for the sale of our three CNC machines. "

Charles, Pennsylvania

"Resell CNC made us a deal too good to pass up!"

Joseph, Texas

"Throughout the process of finalizing the purchase of the machine, Resell CNC was patient and very professional. I own a company; I would highly recommend Resell CNC to anyone in the market for a used machine."

Kevin, California
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